MAG ACC Question

[Ruin]

Ok after obtaining Morrigan Coronal, some serious questions about magic accuracy come to mind. I understand that in most situations the Coronal is way better to use then AF head or Demon+1, even for solo'n puddings.

As for MAG ACC vs enfeebling, how do the 2 compare to each other?

I dont use dark magic equip swap for my drain/aspir usually, but does mag acc+ help it?

I just use AF2 hat for head piece on my gravity macro(+5 enfeeble), but would Coronal be better to use?

[Magos]

And this is what makes me sad about not having any Morrigan pieces yet... -_-

[Kerberoz]

Holy crap.

Please make salvage harder.

[Dammerung]

One of the greatest things I hate in this game... is people obtaining gear and not having any clue what the hell to do with it, when others who aren't retarded can't get the damn thing to drop.

[vivix]

Holy crap.

Please make salvage harder.

Indeed. Oh and btw SE, harder != lower drop rates.

[Rocl]

As for MAG ACC vs enfeebling, how do the 2 compare to each other?

I'm in the school of belief that magic skills work exactly like combat skills, so that every 1 skill past 200 is 0.9 magic accuracy and every 1 skill before then is 1 magic accuracy. There's almost no way to test, but to me it always feels like magic accuracy lags a little behind skill. This applies to all magic skills equally, take your own conclusions as far as to go with +5 enfeebling or +5 Magic Accuracy, but I would go with the AF2 head since I detest most anything with Magic Accuracy+ after wise gear. That's more of a personal vendetta against the stat though.

I dont use dark magic equip swap for my drain/aspir usually, but does mag acc+ help it?

It will lessen the chance Drain and Aspir get resisted. >_>

[Lilswitche]

SE gave us this little tidbit at the FanFest:

Question:
What's the relationship between magic accuracy and magic skill?

Answer:
Your magic skill has a direct effect on how accurate your magic will be against enemies. Also, stats play an important part in the accuracy of magic spells (like MND, INT, etc.)

So,

I would be more tempted to use the Morrigan head over AF2 for at least black magic enfeebles, because of the Magic Acc.+, aswell as the +Int. There's also another option, the igqira headpiece gives +10 enfeebling skill!

[Ruin]

As for MAG ACC vs enfeebling, how do the 2 compare to each other?

I'm in the school of belief that magic skills work exactly like combat skills, so that every 1 skill past 200 is 0.9 magic accuracy and every 1 skill before then is 1 magic accuracy. There's almost no way to test, but to me it always feels like magic accuracy lags a little behind skill. This applies to all magic skills equally, take your own conclusions as far as to go with +5 enfeebling or +5 Magic Accuracy, but I would go with the AF2 head since I detest most anything with Magic Accuracy+ after wise gear. That's more of a personal vendetta against the stat though.

[quote:2gbu0ihc]I dont use dark magic equip swap for my drain/aspir usually, but does mag acc+ help it?

It will lessen the chance Drain and Aspir get resisted. >_>[/quote:2gbu0ihc]

Thanks Rocl for an intelligent reply! It wasnt a question on what is actually better..strictly opinions on the 2.

To those who had nothing better to then cry about the post itself: I find it funny how about every 1 in 4 replies to posts are crap. Sorry I didnt read the page on mag acc info! As for complaining about not having the coronal itself, maybe spend less time reading/bitching on forums and more time in the remnants.

[Rocl]

This thread is now about how much Silver Seas Remnants SUCKS

[Tomiko]

but I would go with the AF2 head since I detest most anything with Magic Accuracy+ after wise gear. That's more of a personal vendetta against the stat though.

This is the correct answer. :nikkei:

[Lordwafik]

My AU team is still at 0% drop rate on silver sea, I am talking about any NM at all whatsoever.


Btw, I am Rocl's arch-enemy and I support magic accuracy! But if something is giving you more skill than more magic acc, don't be stupid.

[Tomiko]

Filthy Mudblood!

I bet you own Wise Gear too!

[Lordwafik]

Nope Just 3/5 morrigan /dance.

[pchan]

Ok after obtaining Morrigan Coronal, some serious questions about magic accuracy come to mind. I understand that in most situations the Coronal is way better to use then AF head or Demon+1, even for solo'n puddings.

As for MAG ACC vs enfeebling, how do the 2 compare to each other?

I dont use dark magic equip swap for my drain/aspir usually, but does mag acc+ help it?

I just use AF2 hat for head piece on my gravity macro(+5 enfeeble), but would Coronal be better to use?

macc help dark spells like drain aspir, but prolly more for your BLM than your RDM.
AF2 hat is better for gravity

I did a lot of testing on magic accuracy vs puddings, who resist sleep a lot. I also nuked them on rdm with different setups. With low skill, 240ish, 1 mac has the same effect of 0.6 skill, aka not much. At around 270-280ish skill 1 mac and 1 skill have the same effect. It's pretty obvious that the better the skill, the better magic accuracy is. My latest tests @322 base enfeebling skill, show that a +10 magic accuracy do noticable better than +10 skill, prolly like 1mac=1.3+ skill, but i still need some test for 322skill+nothing. I slept 1000 times just for the latest test

[Cantih]

This thread is now about how much Silver Seas Remnants SUCKS

The group I'm with would like to hold Hammerblow down and rip the Usu 35 Head piece from his body.
And the LAC has given us everything but Skadi. (Well, we got a skadi body to drop, but, that story is for the salvage oops thread.)

We did get the 35 drop off the F2 NW Imp though.

[Spekkio]

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Igqira_Tiara
buy one of these. they're cheap enough and without question superior to either 5 enf magic or 5 macc. get the pants too if you're still having problems, and use af body (i +1ed mine for the extra 2 skill. was more valuable before i could merit ele and enf magic to cap.) though i suspect you didn't need me to tell you the last one.

drain/aspir, use af1 legs. 15 dark magic will have a substantial impact on your ability to stick dark magic spells. add in af2 hands and you have +25 dark magic right there between the two. that should help your drain/aspir significantly. as for the head, you have a choice between morg head for macc or walhala for haste. not having morg, i usually use walhala, but the haste only helps if you're casting JUST as the timer comes up. depends on your tempo and playstyle i suppose.

[Raineer]

My latest tests @322 base enfeebling skill, show that a +10 magic accuracy do noticable better than +10 skill, prolly like 1mac=1.3+ skill, but i still need some test for 322skill+nothing. I slept 1000 times just for the latest test

I'd be curious about the exact results you found from this test. It would be the first time I've heard of magic accuracy doing (much of) anything.

A side note... Sleep duration is affected by enfeebling skill (instead of INT or moon phase). How does m.acc play into duration (potency) of sleep?

[Rocl]

I have to admit, I forgot about the Igqira Tiara since I sold mine when the price of coral skyrocketed for 200k. >_>

[OctavoGilgamesh]

Ok after obtaining Morrigan Coronal, some serious questions about magic accuracy come to mind. I understand that in most situations the Coronal is way better to use then AF head or Demon+1, even for solo'n puddings.

As for MAG ACC vs enfeebling, how do the 2 compare to each other?

I dont use dark magic equip swap for my drain/aspir usually, but does mag acc+ help it?

I just use AF2 hat for head piece on my gravity macro(+5 enfeeble), but would Coronal be better to use?

macc help dark spells like drain aspir, but prolly more for your BLM than your RDM.
AF2 hat is better for gravity

I did a lot of testing on magic accuracy vs puddings, who resist sleep a lot. I also nuked them on rdm with different setups. With low skill, 240ish, 1 mac has the same effect of 0.6 skill, aka not much. At around 270-280ish skill 1 mac and 1 skill have the same effect. It's pretty obvious that the better the skill, the better magic accuracy is. My latest tests @322 base enfeebling skill, show that a +10 magic accuracy do noticable better than +10 skill, prolly like 1mac=1.3+ skill, but i still need some test for 322skill+nothing. I slept 1000 times just for the latest test

Yes, is it possible to see the results to your tests? Magic acc is really an unknown because there is no way to use eva cons like you can with melee acc. Any information would be a helpful start, especially if your tests are as numerous as you claim.

[setzor]

My latest tests @322 base enfeebling skill, show that a +10 magic accuracy do noticable better than +10 skill, prolly like 1mac=1.3+ skill, but i still need some test for 322skill+nothing. I slept 1000 times just for the latest test

I'd be curious about the exact results you found from this test. It would be the first time I've heard of magic accuracy doing (much of) anything.

A side note... Sleep duration is affected by enfeebling skill (instead of INT or moon phase). How does m.acc play into duration (potency) of sleep?

Alot of end-game rdms' told me, through the years, that MND directly effects the duration of enfeebles, i've always thought enfeebling skill myself, but whatever ;b It would explain why alot of my enfeebles only last a few seconds. It seems more like SE did it up "Enfeeble->Duration = rand(1,150)+rand(1,enfeeblingskill/2)" :D, cuz I've had 303 enfeebling and have had sleeps wear off after 2 seconds sometimes, and last for 2 minutes other times on the same level monsters... I use wise head and wise legs on my enfeeble macros because after 2 years this game still thinks my rdm looks sexy enough in 4/5 rdm af2 .... and nashira? what's that... my character got hijacked right when i was getting into limbus farming runs... meh.